Curse

trielementz · Aug 15, 2007, 10:26 AM // 10:26

Before i start this thread i must divulge something, im the type who spots high-end things going for cheap, and then buying them and reselling them at a higher value. (like buying a req9 unid ele sword and selling off for 100k + 50ectos)
With all these recent hullabaloo about duped armbraces, i was wondering if it would be safe to engage in such activities again, because of the tendency to suspect if the item was duped or not. I know any item can be duped, and because of this, it taints the market and you cant really tell which is the un-duped and which is the duped.

I would appreciate it very much if somebody could tell me if I should proceed with trading, or just stop trading altogether.

Sven788 · Aug 15, 2007, 10:35 AM // 10:35

Just keep trading, I also live from trade.
Anet won't bann you for having 1 dupe item, only if you have large stacks.

Matfei · Aug 15, 2007, 10:40 AM // 10:40

Well I for one will avoid trading with anyone outside my group of guild mates and friends.

Granted I'm concerned about my account being suspended for the possession of a fraudulent item, not the fact about buying high end wares.

Tijger · Aug 15, 2007, 10:42 AM // 10:42

I'd say maybe give it a few days to let Anet sort out who's been naughty but I dont think there's any reason for concern for the long term.

makosi · Aug 15, 2007, 10:47 AM // 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijger

I'd say maybe give it a few days to let Anet sort out who's been naughty but I dont think there's any reason for concern for the long term.

I agree. Don't go overboard with trades until the air has cleared a little and you have confidence in the market once again.

Keep trading if you really want to but if you smell a rat, just don't get involved with anyone that you suspect might be up to no good.

Ghost Recon · Aug 15, 2007, 10:53 AM // 10:53

A-net aren't the brightest crayon in the box but they aren't going to ban people who happen to come across a few duped items, from what I have been told the odds that a power trader has already come across a duped item with-out knowing is extremely high. Duped item's are everywhere and they aren't going anywhere so you may aswell carry on as normal.

doinchi · Aug 15, 2007, 10:53 AM // 10:53

I would definitely not be buying any armbraces on the cheap. I have never, and will probably never have enough to buy an armbrace at it's "legal" price of 100K+40 Ectos approximately.

Now this is based on my understanding of the situation, correct me if I'm wrong and I really do hope I am. I am under the impression that some people were banned for being in posession of "counterfeit" armbraces. I think that would have been just plain silly. First banning someone for buying or posessing a "counterfeit" armband is wrong because according to The Rules last time I checked, buying an armband on the cheap is not against the rules. You might say it should "ring some bells" that a high end item is being sold for 5k and they should immediately assume it is a hacked item. I feel this is wrong as right now, the only way for a person to find out about these items being hacked is through the Official Guild Wars Wiki or through this site. There was no official statement on the GW website warning people of the hack.

For now, and until this problem is solved, I will not be buying an Armband for 5k or 100k+40 Ectos even if I could afford one. Its not worth losing my account over.

I find this very, very disturbing that people who have no idea of the armbands being duped are getting banned.

Disclaimer: I know these people have been unbanned, but I still find it disturbing that they were ever banned. I would not want to duel with customer service to get my account back anyway.

I also would like to stress that I am under the impression that people were banned for possesion or buying armbraces on the cheap or ones that have been duped. If I am wrong, and I hope I am please disregard my post.

spellsword · Aug 15, 2007, 11:01 AM // 11:01

I would say, just screenshot all your traders so you can prove your innocence should it be necesarry.

TheodanUK · Aug 15, 2007, 11:07 AM // 11:07

If you have stocks of things you suspect are duped then I would think it better to contact Arenanet and express your concerns. Perhaps they could then delete these items from your account (sort of like hold an in game amnesty day to hand over stuff you thinks duped (even if its not..) ) and perhaps offer some sort of compenstation gold in exchange and help the markets get back to normal again.

Diddy bow · Aug 15, 2007, 11:12 AM // 11:12

Trading is fine atm, just be wary of arm braces.

Ghost Recon · Aug 15, 2007, 11:14 AM // 11:14

There is no way A-net can tell an item is duped or not(if they use a simlar system to other online games), so far they have just banned people with stupid ammount's of armbraces on there accounts and by the looks of it they have been tracing trade logs and banning a few of them aswell. The more the item is traded the more logs they have to go through it would take months to trace all these items. People should just forgoet about it and carry on like normal.

Hyper.nl · Aug 15, 2007, 01:10 PM // 13:10

I would stay away from armbraces for a few weeks, just to be sure.

Holz · Aug 15, 2007, 01:25 PM // 13:25

Weapons you're talking about are unstackable, nuff said.

Malice Black · Aug 15, 2007, 03:07 PM // 15:07

Trading is fine, this dupe thing is being blown out of proportion.

haggus71 · Aug 15, 2007, 03:19 PM // 15:19

Read Gaile's latest on the issue. Guess they have ways of knowing.

You should be fine. It wasn't like there were hundreds of people out there trading armbraces for 5k.

haggus71 · Aug 15, 2007, 03:20 PM // 15:20

damn u's and ur lag. sorry for doublepost.

apoggy · Aug 15, 2007, 03:23 PM // 15:23

People who are looking to buy an Armbrace, but don't want to risk it could always buy the required gems and obtain the Armbrace directly themselves.

ibex333 · Aug 15, 2007, 03:42 PM // 15:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijger

I dont think there's any reason for concern for the long term.

YOU ARE KIDDING, RIGHT?

NekoZ · Aug 15, 2007, 04:44 PM // 16:44

<- Banned for recieving ectos in trade. Say what you will.

You can't see me · Aug 15, 2007, 08:08 PM // 20:08

No, Ibex, unlike you, we have made it clear that we do not think they sky is falling, as you do in your post in this forum.

I agree, aside from waiting a week or two for armbraces, there's no reason to continue to trade and sell for profit.